What's your thoughts on that new computer? Pricey, priceless, beautiful, ugly as a rösti grater, unique or elitist?
I'm withholding judgement overall on this for the moment until its in peoples hands and they battle test this thing we can only give gut reactions. If they have an update cycle like the last mac pro then that's a huge red flag, I get it's a pro machine but the intro price point is twice then both of the previous generations so I imagine that people won't be leaping on this like they were the trashcan. I have an iMac Pro and I think that'll be my machine for a bit ... it works, I just wish it had NVIDIA support.
I currently can't justify spending 10+ grand on a machine that might be outstripped by a PC at half the cost or not regularly updated and maintained like they've done for the last couple of generations.
But I like being proven wrong ... I hope they learned their lesson but I get we're like 1% of their market share so I imagine they most likely don't care. I get that the Mac vs PC argument is very moot at this point, you like what you like but as of this moment the kinda fugly cheesegrater isn't a high priority for me or my workflow.
Also they kinda fucked up and didn't make it space gray or black ... I mean c'mon
The bigger I did was 10.752 x 1.152px. A giant led display with 2035 square foot. I have a Trashcan MacPro and a 1080ti on eGPU. I did some C4D render with Octane, and it rendered faster than AE ... but if you need to render A LOT faster on AE, install the Render Garden script from mekajiki.com. It's awesome!
I picked up the base model iMac Pro last year because MicroCenter had them on sale for $3999. At that price, I felt it was worth it. I've been very happy with it.
Just do it standard 1920x1080, then take your final render, upscale in AE to 4k and use the preserve detail upscale effect - unless you stand 20cm's away from a4k monitor and really inspect it, no one will notice the difference.
This new machine is just not for the average creative professional. I wish it was, but it's not. If you do high-end finishing, color grading, photoreal 3d, certain vfx workflows, some other stuff I don't even know about, then maybe you are perking your ears up?
I should caveat that I love hating on Adobe, so while I'm disappointed in this machine, on some level I am even more upset with them. The entire suite basically runs on a single CPU core. Having 28 of them isn't going to make a lick of difference. If AE processing scaled well, this machine would be beyond exciting. But it doesn't. So it's not. Apple made a ridiculous, very expensive, state of the art computer. Our software is stuck in 2009.
That said, if Apple just stuffed the guts of a 2019 iMac pro into a tower, I'd buy one. Maybe things will trickle down at some point, but I'm not sure anymore.
It's pretty simple, considering the co$$$$t:
You don't need the Mac Pro for AE/other Adobe.
You don't want it for 3D or high-end compositing, where PCs are the standard – even more so now that Apple didn't release a pro machine for 6 years.
You probably want it if you're an editor working with 4K/8K footage, color correcting, etc.
You probably want it if you produce tracks for Beyoncé. (And you can probably afford it, too!)
You probably also want it if you're a diehard Mac Person who uses Adobe and also does 3D. But... you could probably just get an iMac AND a dope PC for that price, so.
I mean, it seems very cool and I abstractly want it (I loved my 2009 cheese grater until it died last year) but there's no way I can justify 6K+ given that I use someone else's computer all day.
4k photorealistic animated 3D. It was.... bluuuuuuuurgh....
I have a client booked in for later in the year who wants 4k delivery as well - will have to make sure the budget and schedule is suitable, every stage just takes so much longer
Me. But both times I can specifically remember a 4K+ workflow it was for installation or jumbotron type context. It's not especially common, but it happens. One job we used a render farm and the other we had BG render on every machine in the studio going.
I think when clients are going to ask for 4K or 8K motion graphics projects while asking to keep the rate of 2K, we're going to have to invest into more powerful hardware.
Has anyone ever been asked to render a 4K or 8K project yet?
Yeah, pretty much. Anyone doing GPU rendering is probably a tinkerer on some level anyways. You are going to be putting that money into graphics cards and treating yourself to an M.2 drive and extra RAM, not this Mac Pro. It's so much money.
I was speaking to a friend who is an editor in feature films. He uses a 2013 Mac Pro and has no problems. Most of the super highres footage is proxy based, so it isn't a problem.
For motion design, I feel you'd naturally go to PC for 3D and a nice spec iMac will be fine for 2D AE.
I don't see the industry changing massively in the next few years. And for that reason, I'm out.
I feel like they're mainly designed for people shooting 8K footage and making Plant Earth documentaries, so for that kind of thing I bet they're a dream to use. For motion graphics and animation stuff, maybe a touch overkill for now?
I think if you need a lot of power get a PC, if you want a mac get an iMac
Same as it ever was.
Way back in the 90s I worked at a small design shop. We were expanding and buying new computers and the choice was to go Mac or PC. I showed the owner that we could buy TWICE as many PCs with the exact same functionality and I won the argument. The Mac guys, of course, hated me.
I mean, a thousand dollars for a stand?
I've been researching components for a custom PC build and so far the price for a PC optimized for After Effects is a fraction of the price of the Mac Pro (around $2500). The PC recommended by Puget Systems for AE is $3408 starting price with equal or better specs: https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-CC-144/Buy_166
Ryzen Threadripper processors go up to 32-cores/64-threads if you really want to splurge and even then a build wouldn't be $6000, but it might get close. If you're going to drop $6000 on a computer you can get way more bang for your buck with PC and probably new office furniture and a fancy mechanical keyboard as well lol
I don't really care how it looks - I want one, but I don't want to pay for one, so I'll probably just milk my trashcan as long as I can and maybe consider switching to PC in a couple years.
Alternatively, aren't the iMac pros pretty solid at a more affordable price point? I've been out of the loop so I haven't really had time to compare specs and what not lately - but as long as you're not doing heavy 3D/Compositing I'd think they might be a good option?
Ugly as F@$# ... on the other side, Astropad will probably be out of business, but the new ipadOS looks promissing.